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Game entry

Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

2003 · TPS · PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Xbox, Xbox 360 · Rockstar Games

After 434 duels settled by the community, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne stands no. 165 among the best video games of all time on GameForever, with 1,810 ELO points and 69% of wins. Its most contested head-to-head pits it against The Last of Us: 3 wins to 7 across 10 duels. Its best standing outside the world ranking: no. 5 out of 126 (2003).

World rank

no. 165

ELO score

1,810

Wins

69%

Duels played

434

About Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

Max Payne 2 is a third-person shooter, in which the player assumes the role of Max Payne, but also plays as Mona Sax in a few levels. Initially, the player's weapon is a 9mm pistol. As they progress, players access other weapons including other handguns, shotguns, submachine guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles, and hand-thrown weapons. To move the game along, the player is told what the next objective is through Max's internal monologue, in which Max iterates what his next steps should be.

ELO progression

Score moved from 1,500 to 1,810 ELO points over the last 215 days.

Head-to-head

Direct record on the most played match-ups.

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Around this spot

The games Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne sits between in the world ranking.

The standing

Where Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne ranks

The world rank mixes every family of games. Here is where Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne stands in each of the ones it belongs to. Its best standing, all families considered: 5 out of 126 (2003).

Where Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne ranks
Ranking Position Games competing
World ranking 165 5,110
TPS 8 223
2000s 52 1,304
2003 5 126

The community

The debate

43 comments

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  1. WallaceKnight

    Does the noir tone still land for new players, or plutôt, does it only work if you already loved the first one? Genuinely curious.

  2. Phyllis_73

    The ELO barely moves duel after duel, feels like the voters settled this ages ago.

    GlitchOwl95

    En vrai ça bouge plus vite qu'on croit, y a des remontées ELO ponctuelles selon les jeux en face, c'est juste moins visible qu'un classement qui varie tout le temps

    CoopRider

    Static ELO or not, I still remember exactly where I was sitting when I finished it.

  3. yleannon

    The gunplay still feels tight two decades later, and the story hits harder than most shooters try for. It deserves this rank easily.

    Océane_1987

    La visée manuelle demande un temps d'adaptation mais le lock-on n'a jamais remplacé cette précision là, c'est ce qui fait tenir le gunplay.

    IronKid2

    Ah sí, claro, dos décadas después el gunplay sigue impecable, qué sorpresa tan inesperada.

    SilentDragon

    Replying to IronKid2

    Impeccable ou pas, mon fils a mis du temps à comprendre pourquoi Max parlait tout seul comme ça.

  4. NeonKnight12

    La comparaison avec GTA IV me laisse perplexe à chaque fois qu'elle revient dans les duels. Ce sont deux propositions totalement DIFFÉRENTES et pourtant il finit souvent en dessous, ça n'a pas beaucoup de sens pour moi.

    GlitchPilot

    Deux propositions différentes, oui, mais j'avais fait les deux la même année et c'est vrai que ça se marchait pas dessus du tout.

  5. Peltier8

    Il tient sa place, mais pas plus. Le classement le surestime un peu je trouve.

    hamon_dominique

    La narration vieillit bien pour certains, moi elle m'a surtout paru pesante à la relecture, même en solo tranquille chez moi.

    NeonRunner58

    Sèche et cynique, c'est bien résumé (même si je le trouve un peu plus tendre qu'on le dit).

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