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The Metal Gear Solid debate

What the community thinks of Metal Gear Solid, ordered by reader support. Agreeing, translating and reporting a message need no account.

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CosmoSniper3

Would it even hold up in a straight stealth duel against RESIDENT EVIL 4 today, or does everyone just assume it wins because of reputation?

Cortez_1998

Reputation carries it into the duel, sure, but does it actually hold the lead once people vote on the fight itself?
GhostWolf

Third place feels generous when half the fanbase votes on nostalgia alone and never touches it again. It's a museum piece getting propped up by memory, not by actual replays.

GlitchSniper98

Mon frère y jouait, moi je regardais, souvenir intact.

heller_brain

Fair point, I've felt the same doubt watching people vote without touching the thing in years. Still, I replay it myself so I can't fully agree.

ArcadePhoenix2

Ça se joue encore très bien aujourd'hui
Brice_86

number 3 feels about right honestly, not saying its the goat but the win rate speaks for itself, 778 duels and still holding
Matteo_2007

The camera angle forces you to read the room instead of the enemy directly, which sounds like a limitation but it teaches spatial awareness in a way most modern cover shooters skip entirely, the radar compensates just enough without holding your hand fully, and honestly the animation priority on Snake's movement still reads clean frame by frame

NeonRider

No sé, cada duelo repetimos lo mismo, ¿de verdad hace falta comparar la cámara con todo lo que sale ahora

GhostKid27

Le radar j'ai jamais su m'en servir correctement, du coup je jouais un peu à l'instinct, pas glorieux mais efficace.

Irma_76

I got stuck on that same fight for what felt like forever, my roommate walked in, watched five minutes, and just started laughing at me.
ArcadeLegend3

I still remember the codec calls late at night, no idea why they stuck with me

GlitchBard

Yeah those calls stuck with me too, I'll defend that soundtrack forever.

Kihn76

Replying to GlitchBard

Funny you mention the codec, mine crashed once mid call and I thought I'd broken my save, panicked for a solid minute before realizing it was fine.
LaurySniper

I played it at a friend's place over a weekend, we took turns and mostly just watched the cutscenes together, honestly the actual sneaking parts felt slow compared to what I was used to, we ended up skipping ahead just to see what happened next, it's the story I remember, not really the gameplay itself

ArcadeOwl

Still boots up fine, that's real staying power.
QuestRex5

But has anyone actually sat down and asked why it keeps winning so many duels instead of just assuming it's nostalgia talking?

NovaAce2

not really, the win rate already answers that question better than any argument here could
SammieDragon

I'll always rate it above Uncharted 4 in terms of pure atmosphere, even if I know that's the fan in me talking
EmileWarden

Story hits harder than the stealth ever does, and that's fine by me

ElainaPilot

Story does hit harder. The stealth just sets the stage for it.

AbdullahKnight

Story over stealth, stealth over story, same argument every time, doesn't change the votes much.

sporer_elva

Replying to ElainaPilot

Yeah, story over stealth, or actually both work because neither gets in the other's way. I've made my peace with that.
Ally_1998

My cousin showed it to me first, or actually I think I found it myself, either way it hooked me instantly

CoopPhoenix

Found it myself too, then dragged my roommate into it, then he dragged in his brother.
Samuel_75

No entiendo por qué siempre hay que justificar por qué está en el podio, se ganó el lugar solo

felipe30

Exactly, it earned it, people forget how rare that is for something this old to still win duels!
Lopes69

premier run j'ai tout fait de travers, alarme à chaque salle, mais l'ambiance passait quand même, la narration porte le truc même quand tu joues mal, franchement peu de jeux de cette époque tiennent encore autant la route

ArcadeWarden2

The camera holding you back is the whole reason those rooms still feel tense... modern games would just show you everything.

NovaOwl

That alarm chaos sounds exactly like my first run, alarms everywhere, panic everywhere, and somehow it still worked.

ArcadeAce4

Same alarms, same panic... mine happened during a sleepover, everyone yelling directions at the screen.
RogueRider2008

Est-ce qu'on peut vraiment séparer le mérite du jeu de l'effet de surprise qu'il a eu à sa sortie ? Je me pose la question sincèrement

Audrey_55

I never finished it either honestly, just the parts everyone talks about, and that's plenty for me.

meza_dario

Con mi primo hacíamos turnos cada vez que moría el personaje, era una regla no escrita pero nadie la rompía nunca, buenos recuerdos.
rossi_celina

Je le remets toujours un peu haut dans mes classements perso, même si je sais que c'est en partie affectif (comme beaucoup ici je pense), mais l'écriture tient encore selon moi

NeonSniper

Same, I still think about a specific hallway more than the ending itself.

ReggieLegend

Replayed it 2 weeks ago, writing holds, controls don't

AllenPhoenix

Same here.
CoopRider2008

Un des seuls jeux que je relance encore aujourd'hui sans me lasser une seconde