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Le débat sur Borderlands

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Loot_Sanchez

Le style graphique a bien vieilli, le rythme des missions un peu moins

NovaMaster2

The humor complaint is fair honestly, some of it just doesn't land anymore.

Ghost_Botsford

Same here, the missions started blending together after a while, though the visuals still made it worth pushing through.
CoopRider14

Face à Skyrim ou Dragon Age il joue clairement dans une autre catégorie, plus arcade, moins ambitieux sur le fond mais franchement redoutable en coop entre potes

ArcadeLegend3

Fair take on coop

CoopRunner

Coop with my brother is exactly why I still rank it decently, that alone earned it a spot for me.

QuestLegend2

I get that coop argument every single duel, funny how it keeps showing up, votes swing hard on nostalgia alone honestly
Gonzalez2008

Ce qui me frappe c'est que Borderlands a inventé une formule que Skyrim ou Dragon Age n'ont jamais eu besoin de copier : le loot aléatoire comme moteur principal. Contre eux il perd souvent en profondeur narrative, mais sur la boucle de jeu pure il tient très bien la comparaison.

VinylRex

Wasn't it seen as the underdog back then, before people started ranking it against those bigger titles at all?

BossPilot2

Contra Skyrim pierde en ambición, sí (aunque a mí el humor me sigue pareciendo mejor puesto aquí)

NovaOwl

Inventing the loop is one thing, but did it ever really refine it, or did later games just do the same thing better?

Moral2003

En réponse à VinylRex

Underdog total, sí...

Combo_Goldner

Loot as the engine, fair, though against Dragon Age the writing gap really shows once the guns stop being novel.

FramePlayer

The bigger question is whether Skyrim or Dragon Age even belong in the same bracket as this.
CoopRider2008

Le style cartoon est encore génial, j'adore !

Tristan_42

Génial, génial, mais bon après trois zones ça se ressemble un peu, le cartoon ne cache pas tout quand même
ChristineRunner

Bonne ambiance visuelle, missions répétitives. Ça reste sympa entre deux sessions plus sérieuses.

GhostByte2

Répétitif ou pas, ça n'empêche pas les votes de tomber en sa faveur.

hiram_kessler

Repetitive missions is exactly why Dragon Age or The Witcher 2 age better as full experiences.

PedroHunter

En réponse à hiram_kessler

Cada duelo contra The Witcher 2 termina igual, la misma pelea sobre si envejece bien o no, y al final nadie cambia su voto de todas formas.
GhostPhoenix

Et pourtant manette en main ça reste hyper agréable, les sensations de tir sont franches et l'interface de loot ne m'a jamais gêné même après toutes ces années.

Alfonso_1993

The interface always gets me

WallaceKnight

Interface never gave you trouble? Not even when you're switching weapons mid-fight against multiple enemies?

AllenPhoenix

En réponse à Alfonso_1993

Similar story for me actually, picked it up on a whim (after seeing a friend play) and the guns kept me around way longer than the story did.
RogueKnight1986

Borrowed a copy from my cousin during a rough semester and never gave it back, still feel a little bad about that honestly.
QuestBard

It sits where it should on the list, not higher, not lower (people forget how many games it inspired though), and that alone should count for something in these debates.
ChaddOwl

I keep coming back to this one, not because it's perfect, far from it, but because the way loot drops keep you moving from one fight to the next is something a lot of newer games try to replicate and just don't quite nail, even with better graphics and bigger budgets.

Max_1984

That loop is exactly why I still rank it above stuff with flashier graphics, no contest there.

LootSamurai87

Loot chasing you back in, sure, but wasn't that exact loop already feeling dated even at launch?

ArcadeHunter

Claro, tan innovador que seguimos comparando el mismo loop de siempre con un lavado de cara
ArcadeOwl

Replayed it last year with a controller from a modern setup and the shooting still feels tight, better than most people give it credit for.
edwardo_schulist

Why does everyone compare this to Skyrim when the scope is so different? Isn't it more honest to judge it against something with actual RPG choices, like Dragon Age or The Witcher 2?

harber_cordia

"Lost interest completely" pretty much matches my own experience with the early hours, it just doesn't hook everyone the same way.

Peltier8

En réponse à harber_cordia

Pareil, j'ai décroché après quelques heures, l'univers ne m'a jamais vraiment retenu comme d'autres jeux du classement.
davis_lelah

I picked this up during a slow week at work and burned through the first zone in two sittings before losing interest completely.

Vergie_62

Two sittings then quitting for good, was it the loot or just the grind that killed it for you?

Madyson_88

En réponse à Vergie_62

Same kind of split screen setup here, my sister called every weapon too, it's funny how common that memory seems to be.

hamon_dominique

Perdre l'intérêt vite, ça se voit aussi dans les votes, il stagne pas mal ces derniers temps.
FrameLegend2010

Comparado con Skyrim de esa misma época, este tenía un humor que a mí me atrapó más rápido.
Iron_Shields

Does anyone actually replay this outside of nostalgia, or is it just sitting on reputation at this point?
Celia_44

Lo jugué en el sofá de mi prima, ella miraba y comentaba cada arma que encontrábamos.

NeonSniper

I had the same setup with my roommate years ago, one of us always ended up doing the shooting while the other picked apart every weapon stat out loud.

JazlynMaster

My kid does the same thing now, comments on every gun while I handle the actual shooting.

QuestDragon93

Screen comparing, right? Did the game actually hold up once the novelty wore off for you two?