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The Xenogears debate

What the community thinks of Xenogears, ordered by reader support. Agreeing, translating and reporting a message need no account.

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  1. SilentHunter2

    Against Final Fantasy Tactics Advance it's a different kind of game entirely, but the ambition on display here is what stays with me.

  2. EmileWarden

    Still one of the few RPGs that actually tried something ambitious with its story.

    LuckyNinja

    J'ai lu la même chose partout mais moi l'ambition m'a surtout perdu en route, j'ai décroché avant la fin...

    OcéaneOwl

    Ambitieux, c'est le mot qu'on sort toujours quand on veut éviter de dire daté.

  3. IronDragon41

    Story reaches further than the budget could follow, still lands more than it should...

    Éric_2005

    Ces discussions me rappellent le lycée, c'était sans fin.

  4. CoopPhoenix

    I borrowed a copy from a friend who swore I'd love it (I did, eventually, took me a while though).

    GhostWolf

    Replying to Willie_12

    the word of mouth thing is a myth people repeat, FF7 outsold and outmarketed it because it was simply the stronger package

    RustyRider

    Borrow it, buy it, worship it!!

    Willie_12

    I never borrowed a copy, only played it in short bursts at a friend's place, and honestly it never fully clicked for me that way.

  5. Katelyn_1985

    The camera rotation was a nice touch for its time but navigating the map with the jump and climb controls feels stiff by modern standards, and some transitions between exploration and battle screens still stutter a bit even now.

  6. IronPlayer

    Not sure it belongs this low, honestly.

    GlitchWolf

    Not sure it's underranked, but I get why people feel that way after replaying it.

  7. BossNinja1986

    when it comes up against Final Fantasy VII i always feel a bit torn, honestly both deserve better spots than they get.

    BossOwl1995

    torn is fair but ff7 wins that matchup for me every single time, no contest

    Alice_1995

    Ce qui me frappe c'est le rythme des combats, il porte tout le début, mais la fin s'appuie surtout sur le scénario pour tenir debout

    LaurySniper

    were you rooting for one to win outright, or is the tie in your head the real answer here?

  8. NovaRider

    The battle system holds up fine, the story stumbles a bit near the end though.

  9. karina32

    Looking at the numbers, 72% win rate over 83 duels is actually pretty SOLID for a game this old, it just keeps losing ground to bigger franchise names in raw visibility.

    TurboPlayer2007

    Same here, borrowed copy too, never gave it back.

    Rowena_2009

    funny you mention visibility, name one franchise game that had to earn it word of mouth like this

  10. Neon_Picard

    c'est quoi le critère exact pour monter dans ce classement, parce que 72% de victoires ça devrait suffire non

  11. daniel_launay

    251e alors qu'il écrase les trois quarts de ses adversaires en duel, ce classement ne veut plus rien dire.

    PixelOwl1997

    Winning duels isn't the same as ranking, ranking, that's the gap.

  12. Hortense_48

    Ce qui tient encore aujourd'hui c'est l'ambition du scénario, il ose des choses que peu de RPG de cette génération ont tentées, et ça se sent encore maintenant.

    Leo_91

    Ese riesgo del que hablas es justo lo que le falta a tantos otros del género, y por eso sigue en boca de todos.

    ComboWarden

    Ambitieux, oui, mais 251e ça reste 251e (le classement s'en fiche des intentions)

    Coop_Hagenes

    Replying to Leo_91

    I keep checking the duel stats every week, it's become a weird little habit of mine at this point

  13. ÁngelesSamurai

    Para mí sigue mereciendo un lugar alto, o más bien merece que se le juzgue por lo que intentó, no solo por cómo se ve ahora. La historia todavía me sorprende cuando la recuerdo, y eso ya dice bastante.

    Cosmo_Corrales

    Coincido, la sorpresa se queda contigo

  14. LootLegend68

    Il affrontait souvent Final Fantasy VII à l'époque dans les discussions entre potes, et c'était jamais tranché.

    Frame_Rippin

    fair, VII got the marketing, this one got the word of mouth honestly

  15. Puente51

    Comparado con Final Fantasy III se nota una ambición narrativa distinta, o más bien un riesgo que el otro no se permite tomar.